Podcast Show Notes: Episode 10 – Zallinger Sr. and Sharon Wegner-Larsen

Podcast Show Notes

It’s a big moment for us: We’ve made our tenth episode! For such a hallmark occasion, what better than to cover a true hallmark of palaeoart? Today is the day the LITC team finally tackles what is both literally and figuratively one of the biggest pieces of classic dinosaur art of all time: Rudolph Zallinger’s The Age of Reptiles, the 34-metre long fresco secco that adorns the walls of the hallowed Great Hall of the Yale Peabody Museum in Connecticut. In another hallmark moment, LITC founder David Orr joins us for the first time as he and Natee interview Sharon Wegner-Larsen, who blends palaeoart and science art with design and art nouveau. How do old Yes albums influcence palaeoart? Is Zallinger’s colour study better than the real deal? Will Marc’s studies at Lincoln finally pay off? Will we ever know if the “p” is silent? Find out in episode ten!

In the News

  • Your LITC team has been asked to join a panel discussion at a PopPalaeo event! The discussion will be about the ins and outs of palaeo podcasting, and will also feature among others fellow palaeontology podcasters David Hone (Terrible Lizards), Darren Naish (TetZooPodCats) and Gijs Rademaker (DinoCast). It will be on 3 November 2021 at 5 p.m. UK time. The discussion will be held online, over Microsoft Teams. If you are interested in coming, you can send an email to Chris Manias. Check out PopPalaeo’s webiste here!
  • Some titanosaur sauropods such as Saltasaurus have been found with armour-like osteoderms embedded in the skin of their backs. Do these structures indeed serve some sort of defensive purpose? Finite element analysis by Julian Silva et al suggests that they would, indeed, have been effective against predators!
  • A new early-Late Cretaceous characharodontosaur from Uzbekistan, named Ulughbegsaurus uzbekistanensis, is now the latest living charcharodontosaur known to share its ecosystem with a small tyrannosauroid. In addition to pushing back the reign of the allosaurs before the tyrannosaur takeover, the discovery provides a fascinating case study into the way popular media handle dinosaur news… if not a very encouraging one. Read the paper by Kohei Tanaka et al at open access here.

The Uluughbegsaurus holotype, from Wikimedia Commons

  • Kariridraco dianae is a new pterosaur of the tapejarid persuasion, which has been described from Brazil, further cementing the worldwide distribution of this group of flamboyant pterodactyloids. The paper, by Gabriela Cerquiera et al, can be read at open acces here.

Reconstruction of Kariridraco, (c) Júlia d’Oliveira

Vintage Dinosaur Art

What can we say about Rudolph Zallinger’s mural, The Age of Reptiles, at the Yale Peabody Museum? Plenty, it turns out. Marc, Natee and Niels have a long discussion about the artistic and scientific merits of the legendary mural, its unlikely genesis and its vast legacy.

The Devonian

The Permian (Dimetrodon in the centre)

The Triassic, with Allosaurus, Camptosaurus, Plateosaurus and Cynognathus

The Jurassic with Brontosaurus, Stegosaurus, Archaeopteryx and Allosaurus

Cretaceous and Jurassic with Tyrannosaurus, Ankylosaurs, Trachodon (Edmontosaurus) and Brontosaurus

The Cretaceous with Triceratops and Tyrannosaurus. Bonus points if you spot the mammal.


Sharon Wegner-Larsen creates and sells items, apparel and memorabilia inspired by science, nature and prehistoric life. With Natee and, in his first podcast appearance, David Orr, she talks about her influences, her creative process and her future, and whether or not this type of work counts as “palaeoart”. You can check out her work at Omegafauna.com.

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  • Reply
    Arthur Williams
    October 11, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    As a lover of both art and dinosaurs, I really enjoyed the wonderful respect and knowledge y’all presented for both elements. I highly look forward to listening to more of your podcasts in the future!

  • Reply
    October 17, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    For no particular reason I was listening to this episode again, and I was struck by the mention of the fallen log paleoart meme which occurs in the Devonian panel. And it occurs to me, there actually is a Devonian forest, preserved near the (now submerged) town of Gilboa, New York, which preserves some standing Devonian trees, and a tree that fell over!

    It is mentioned in this early years old episode of palaeocast: https://www.palaeocast.com/episode-4-the-fossil-forests-of-gilboa/

    But you’ll have to pay close attention for the mention of the tree that fell over. It is about 17 minutes in, when they are discussing how they mapped the “footprints” of the trees, which were preserved in life position.

    (While fallen logs are indeed common in palaeoart, as well as other art, it has been my experience they’re comparably common in all the forests I’ve walked in – though these are all in the western USA and Canada, so not necessarily representative. )

    Thank you for this wonderful podcast – I hope to hear your next episode soon.

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